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		<title>By: lori</title>
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		<dc:creator>lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2006 14:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i find it fascinating that those who verbally supported the music format on WDET contributed so very little to it&#039;s success financially.  Surely you must be completely out of touch to think that metro area business owners and those with high qualitative levels won&#039;t support a news/talk format.  Download your triple A music like the rest of your compatriots - get your news and NPR from your local public radio station WDET - and get over yourselves.  Oh, and put your money where your mouth is and support WDET or one of us commercial radio flunkies will buy it and then you&#039;ll really be screwed!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i find it fascinating that those who verbally supported the music format on WDET contributed so very little to it&#8217;s success financially.  Surely you must be completely out of touch to think that metro area business owners and those with high qualitative levels won&#8217;t support a news/talk format.  Download your triple A music like the rest of your compatriots &#8211; get your news and NPR from your local public radio station WDET &#8211; and get over yourselves.  Oh, and put your money where your mouth is and support WDET or one of us commercial radio flunkies will buy it and then you&#8217;ll really be screwed!</p>
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		<title>By: ex-DETer</title>
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		<dc:creator>ex-DETer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 20:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joan, I agree</description>
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		<title>By: joan</title>
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		<dc:creator>joan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 04:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that Caryn kept Judy Adams on too long, but at least neither one of them embezzled the station.  I have real problems giving money to a station or college that supports an embezzler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Caryn kept Judy Adams on too long, but at least neither one of them embezzled the station.  I have real problems giving money to a station or college that supports an embezzler.</p>
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		<title>By: ex-WDETer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 22:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caryn Mathes deserves some blame, in that she kept Judy Adams on as Program Director long after it was clear that Adams wasn&#039;t up to the job.

WDET had serious problems when Coleman came aboard, no doubt.  But his efforts to right the ship have been ham-fisted at best and the fact that he was under indictment on charges of embezzling from a public radio station during the Spring 2006 pledge drive didn&#039;t help.  Now that he&#039;s been convicted of embezzling from a public radio station, it&#039;s not going to get much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caryn Mathes deserves some blame, in that she kept Judy Adams on as Program Director long after it was clear that Adams wasn&#8217;t up to the job.</p>
<p>WDET had serious problems when Coleman came aboard, no doubt.  But his efforts to right the ship have been ham-fisted at best and the fact that he was under indictment on charges of embezzling from a public radio station during the Spring 2006 pledge drive didn&#8217;t help.  Now that he&#8217;s been convicted of embezzling from a public radio station, it&#8217;s not going to get much better.</p>
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		<title>By: TF</title>
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		<dc:creator>TF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 18:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this old article in the Mertro Times while doing a web search.... Perhasp C Mathis should also be held accountable.. It was under her lead that the station realized slipping contributions and actions taken while she was in charge.. Todays WDET is also the result of her leadership and she is not under the spotlight now... Im still not sure they have it right.. Even if they are &quot;experts&quot;.. The result is today we see WDET Spiraling down the drain.. I think the troubles are yet to be fully appreciated.. They just dumped a lot of people just after they claimed great sucess in their spring pledge drive and rumors of another pledge drive coming.. No Flushing down is a better description... 

OK some reading from the past (taken from a Dec 2005 article that appeared in the Metro Times.


When it comes to the format changes that occurred last week at Detroit public radio station WDET-FM, the bottom line is the bottom line.



&quot;We couldn&#039;t afford another year like last year,&quot; says Michael Coleman, who became the station&#039;s general manager in August. &quot;Our survival was in jeopardy.&quot;


Coleman says the station racked up a $300,000 deficit for the fiscal year that ended in September, and then fell $100,000 short of the goal set for its fall pledge drive.





To stem the flow of red ink, Coleman instituted a major overhaul, eliminating locally produced weekday music programming and replacing it with national news-talk shows.



The change reflects a broader trend in public radio, experts say. &quot;WDET is one of the last stations in a major market to make that kind of change,&quot; says Jack Mitchell, a professor of mass communication at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. &quot;The choice has been overwhelmingly to go to all news talk.&quot;



Part of the motivation behind that shift has to do with technological changes in the music industry.



&quot;Stations are finding that playing CDs is not a very good competitive situation no matter how good the local host is,&quot; says John Sutton, founder of a company that provides research, marketing and management consulting services to public radio stations. &quot;What&#039;s happening is that people are going online and getting their music there. They&#039;re using the shuffle mode on their iPod or MP3 player, and they&#039;re learning about new artists from the Internet. They&#039;re going to announcer-free channels on satellite radio.



&quot;Unfortunately, the age of the well-versed announcer introducing people to new music and sharing insights is coming to an end.&quot;



Tied into this is the counterintuitive notion that stations can achieve more financial support from listeners by narrowing the range of programs offered. Experts say that, though it would seem to make sense that the more listeners a station brings in, the more successful it will be financially, in the world of public radio it&#039;s the amount of time a person listens that&#039;s most important. And so, in the case of WDET, shifting from NPR&#039;s early news program &quot;Morning Edition&quot; to music during the day, and then back to news with NPR&#039;s &quot;All Things Considered&quot; in the afternoon, ran the risk of fragmenting the station&#039;s audience. The people interested in news weren&#039;t likely to want music, and vice versa.



&quot;The notion of consistency is really important,&quot; Mitchell says. &quot;Pledging is totally dependent on how much a person listens. If you listen for an hour or two a week, it&#039;s most likely that you won&#039;t contribute. If you listen for 30 hours a week, it&#039;s very likely that you will contribute.&quot;



Marc Hand, a consultant to public radio stations, offers a similar analysis, saying the key to financial success at public radio stations is building as large a core audience as possible. &quot;If you offer more of a mix, your audience is more fragmented. You might reach a broader audience, but they will listen less, and when they listen less, they will contribute less.&quot;



Focusing format, he says, translates into more revenue.



WDET, as Coleman is quick to point out, has not forsaken music. There&#039;s still plenty of music to be found in the evenings, overnight and on the weekends. &quot;I have trouble, really, with the notion that WDET has killed the music,&quot; Coleman says. &quot;We will never do that on my watch.&quot;



&quot;It&#039;s an absolutely rational change,&quot; says Tom Thomas, co-CEO of Station Resource Group, which provides consulting services to 48 public radio stations. &quot;It&#039;s a move toward programming that seems to be enjoying the widest interest by the public at this juncture. If all goes as trends suggest, it should result in more people tuning in, with those who are tuning in staying longer, and being more generous in their financial support.&quot;



But the move to news talk on weekdays is not seen as risk-free. For one thing, it places WDET more directly into competition with Ann Arbor public radio station WUOM, which also focuses on news and talk programming during weekdays. People on the west side of metro Detroit can pick up the signal of either station. It remains to be seen how many WUOM listeners WDET can attract now that the two stations have similar formats.



There&#039;s another potential pitfall in this format change. The uproar from loyal music listeners has been intense. There is talk of protests, boycotts, even a class-action lawsuit. If WDET loses these people, will they be able to attract enough new listeners to put the station on a sound financial footing?



Caryn Mathes, Coleman&#039;s immediate predecessor at WDET, says the station had been expecting a drop-off in support after several popular programs -- both local music and national talk -- were dropped in an attempt to &quot;smooth out the bumps&quot; in the station&#039;s programming last year. Those changes came after more than two years of research and market study, says Mathes, who earlier this year became general manager of a public radio station in Washington, D.C. The way she sees it, the &quot;tweaking&quot; of a two-prong format that relied on the support of both news and music fans hadn&#039;t been given the chance to fully play out.



&quot;We assumed it would take 24 to 46 months for the new schedule to really take hold,&quot; she says.



Instead, it was scrapped after a little more than a year. Nationally produced news programs are considerably more expensive than locally produced music shows, and when Mathes was in Detroit, she didn&#039;t see how donors would be inspired to contribute enough to make up the difference if the switch to more news was made.



&quot;I think it&#039;s a very risky move,&quot; she says. &quot;But, who knows, it could work.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this old article in the Mertro Times while doing a web search&#8230;. Perhasp C Mathis should also be held accountable.. It was under her lead that the station realized slipping contributions and actions taken while she was in charge.. Todays WDET is also the result of her leadership and she is not under the spotlight now&#8230; Im still not sure they have it right.. Even if they are &#8220;experts&#8221;.. The result is today we see WDET Spiraling down the drain.. I think the troubles are yet to be fully appreciated.. They just dumped a lot of people just after they claimed great sucess in their spring pledge drive and rumors of another pledge drive coming.. No Flushing down is a better description&#8230; </p>
<p>OK some reading from the past (taken from a Dec 2005 article that appeared in the Metro Times.</p>
<p>When it comes to the format changes that occurred last week at Detroit public radio station WDET-FM, the bottom line is the bottom line.</p>
<p>&#8220;We couldn&#8217;t afford another year like last year,&#8221; says Michael Coleman, who became the station&#8217;s general manager in August. &#8220;Our survival was in jeopardy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Coleman says the station racked up a $300,000 deficit for the fiscal year that ended in September, and then fell $100,000 short of the goal set for its fall pledge drive.</p>
<p>To stem the flow of red ink, Coleman instituted a major overhaul, eliminating locally produced weekday music programming and replacing it with national news-talk shows.</p>
<p>The change reflects a broader trend in public radio, experts say. &#8220;WDET is one of the last stations in a major market to make that kind of change,&#8221; says Jack Mitchell, a professor of mass communication at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. &#8220;The choice has been overwhelmingly to go to all news talk.&#8221;</p>
<p>Part of the motivation behind that shift has to do with technological changes in the music industry.</p>
<p>&#8220;Stations are finding that playing CDs is not a very good competitive situation no matter how good the local host is,&#8221; says John Sutton, founder of a company that provides research, marketing and management consulting services to public radio stations. &#8220;What&#8217;s happening is that people are going online and getting their music there. They&#8217;re using the shuffle mode on their iPod or MP3 player, and they&#8217;re learning about new artists from the Internet. They&#8217;re going to announcer-free channels on satellite radio.</p>
<p>&#8220;Unfortunately, the age of the well-versed announcer introducing people to new music and sharing insights is coming to an end.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tied into this is the counterintuitive notion that stations can achieve more financial support from listeners by narrowing the range of programs offered. Experts say that, though it would seem to make sense that the more listeners a station brings in, the more successful it will be financially, in the world of public radio it&#8217;s the amount of time a person listens that&#8217;s most important. And so, in the case of WDET, shifting from NPR&#8217;s early news program &#8220;Morning Edition&#8221; to music during the day, and then back to news with NPR&#8217;s &#8220;All Things Considered&#8221; in the afternoon, ran the risk of fragmenting the station&#8217;s audience. The people interested in news weren&#8217;t likely to want music, and vice versa.</p>
<p>&#8220;The notion of consistency is really important,&#8221; Mitchell says. &#8220;Pledging is totally dependent on how much a person listens. If you listen for an hour or two a week, it&#8217;s most likely that you won&#8217;t contribute. If you listen for 30 hours a week, it&#8217;s very likely that you will contribute.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marc Hand, a consultant to public radio stations, offers a similar analysis, saying the key to financial success at public radio stations is building as large a core audience as possible. &#8220;If you offer more of a mix, your audience is more fragmented. You might reach a broader audience, but they will listen less, and when they listen less, they will contribute less.&#8221;</p>
<p>Focusing format, he says, translates into more revenue.</p>
<p>WDET, as Coleman is quick to point out, has not forsaken music. There&#8217;s still plenty of music to be found in the evenings, overnight and on the weekends. &#8220;I have trouble, really, with the notion that WDET has killed the music,&#8221; Coleman says. &#8220;We will never do that on my watch.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s an absolutely rational change,&#8221; says Tom Thomas, co-CEO of Station Resource Group, which provides consulting services to 48 public radio stations. &#8220;It&#8217;s a move toward programming that seems to be enjoying the widest interest by the public at this juncture. If all goes as trends suggest, it should result in more people tuning in, with those who are tuning in staying longer, and being more generous in their financial support.&#8221;</p>
<p>But the move to news talk on weekdays is not seen as risk-free. For one thing, it places WDET more directly into competition with Ann Arbor public radio station WUOM, which also focuses on news and talk programming during weekdays. People on the west side of metro Detroit can pick up the signal of either station. It remains to be seen how many WUOM listeners WDET can attract now that the two stations have similar formats.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s another potential pitfall in this format change. The uproar from loyal music listeners has been intense. There is talk of protests, boycotts, even a class-action lawsuit. If WDET loses these people, will they be able to attract enough new listeners to put the station on a sound financial footing?</p>
<p>Caryn Mathes, Coleman&#8217;s immediate predecessor at WDET, says the station had been expecting a drop-off in support after several popular programs &#8212; both local music and national talk &#8212; were dropped in an attempt to &#8220;smooth out the bumps&#8221; in the station&#8217;s programming last year. Those changes came after more than two years of research and market study, says Mathes, who earlier this year became general manager of a public radio station in Washington, D.C. The way she sees it, the &#8220;tweaking&#8221; of a two-prong format that relied on the support of both news and music fans hadn&#8217;t been given the chance to fully play out.</p>
<p>&#8220;We assumed it would take 24 to 46 months for the new schedule to really take hold,&#8221; she says.</p>
<p>Instead, it was scrapped after a little more than a year. Nationally produced news programs are considerably more expensive than locally produced music shows, and when Mathes was in Detroit, she didn&#8217;t see how donors would be inspired to contribute enough to make up the difference if the switch to more news was made.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think it&#8217;s a very risky move,&#8221; she says. &#8220;But, who knows, it could work.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Joan</title>
		<link>http://detroit.metblogs.com/2006/05/05/wdet/comment-page-1/#comment-1976</link>
		<dc:creator>Joan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 16:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: TF&#039;s comments about talk listeners financially supporting the station. 
I don&#039;t think the new talk listeners will support the station since they can choose to give to WUOM or WDET.  Few people give to Wayne State unless they have some type of connection. 
Why I think WDET didn&#039;t succeed? I think the lack of vision at WSU prevents anyone from realizing the treasure WDET was.  Remember &quot;In the cultural center of Detroit?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: TF&#8217;s comments about talk listeners financially supporting the station.<br />
I don&#8217;t think the new talk listeners will support the station since they can choose to give to WUOM or WDET.  Few people give to Wayne State unless they have some type of connection.<br />
Why I think WDET didn&#8217;t succeed? I think the lack of vision at WSU prevents anyone from realizing the treasure WDET was.  Remember &#8220;In the cultural center of Detroit?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: TF</title>
		<link>http://detroit.metblogs.com/2006/05/05/wdet/comment-page-1/#comment-1975</link>
		<dc:creator>TF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 15:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES Tom   WDET WAS MUSIC... Maybe there was music that I did not resonate with.. But.. it was music that I did not hear elsewhere.. Who would have thought that I would listen to &quot;blue grass&quot; But I did and learned to give it a try.. And must say that Ralph Stanley can rock Bluegrass like no one else... I would not have discovered his talent had it not been for WDET. AND maybe some time I did ot like the play list of Judy or MArtin BUT I survived and if I got really out of sinc with what was played I turned it off (like I frequently did with Ed Love)..   IT WAS THE MUSIC.... Very simple... 

Mike C I don&#039;t sense was the master mind of this all.. Someone higher up perhasp wanted to go down this path... Mike C sounds so much like a polititian.. Anyone with a reasonable ounce of grey matter can see thru his sham statements..

Well it is gone (for now.. maybe permenately) Much or radio has gone this way.. Perhaps it&#039;s cheeper to broad cast mostly meaningless talk then produce the Free Form music type of show...It certinly gives you power to influence the mass media audience. You get to &quot;advertise&quot; your own agenda.. Influence people to think the way you wish.... (that was what WDET stayed away from... It was a musical island away from all the stuff we are bombarded with all the  &quot;Talk&quot; on radio AND TELEVISION too)

I&#039;ll buy a SERUS receiver..... I get enough talk.

A a matter of curiousity I wonder where the listener numbers go in say another 6 months as WDET runs lower on funds.. it might sprial further down the drain.. 

Will these TALK listeners support the station with real money ??? They did in Ann Arbor.. But DET and Ann Arbor are two different universes... with overlaping geogrephy. Can&#039;t they see that WDET NEEDED to define itself as something unique from WUOM.. 

I think WDET&#039;main problem was advertising.. They just did not advertise the unique radio format well enough....  Ok enought from me.. Take Care</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES Tom   WDET WAS MUSIC&#8230; Maybe there was music that I did not resonate with.. But.. it was music that I did not hear elsewhere.. Who would have thought that I would listen to &#8220;blue grass&#8221; But I did and learned to give it a try.. And must say that Ralph Stanley can rock Bluegrass like no one else&#8230; I would not have discovered his talent had it not been for WDET. AND maybe some time I did ot like the play list of Judy or MArtin BUT I survived and if I got really out of sinc with what was played I turned it off (like I frequently did with Ed Love)..   IT WAS THE MUSIC&#8230;. Very simple&#8230; </p>
<p>Mike C I don&#8217;t sense was the master mind of this all.. Someone higher up perhasp wanted to go down this path&#8230; Mike C sounds so much like a polititian.. Anyone with a reasonable ounce of grey matter can see thru his sham statements..</p>
<p>Well it is gone (for now.. maybe permenately) Much or radio has gone this way.. Perhaps it&#8217;s cheeper to broad cast mostly meaningless talk then produce the Free Form music type of show&#8230;It certinly gives you power to influence the mass media audience. You get to &#8220;advertise&#8221; your own agenda.. Influence people to think the way you wish&#8230;. (that was what WDET stayed away from&#8230; It was a musical island away from all the stuff we are bombarded with all the  &#8220;Talk&#8221; on radio AND TELEVISION too)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll buy a SERUS receiver&#8230;.. I get enough talk.</p>
<p>A a matter of curiousity I wonder where the listener numbers go in say another 6 months as WDET runs lower on funds.. it might sprial further down the drain.. </p>
<p>Will these TALK listeners support the station with real money ??? They did in Ann Arbor.. But DET and Ann Arbor are two different universes&#8230; with overlaping geogrephy. Can&#8217;t they see that WDET NEEDED to define itself as something unique from WUOM.. </p>
<p>I think WDET&#8217;main problem was advertising.. They just did not advertise the unique radio format well enough&#8230;.  Ok enought from me.. Take Care</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 17:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, I cannot agree with you more on the issue of Judy and Martin&#039;s programs.  What exactly was it that people expected to hear instead?  The motto for WDET used to be music variety.  Martin and Judy brought something to the airwaves that couldn&#039;t be heard elsewhere.  Sure, Judy for a while wouldn&#039;t stop playing Pat Matheny.  If anyone else is like me, I&#039;m sure there were a few accidents from people falling asleep at the wheel.  But where else would you hear that music?

You may have not enjoyed everything that was played, but you were given a chance to form an opinion on it.  If you were never turned on to a new artist during your time listening to her program, you probably enjoy something closer to a top 40 format.  You can easily switch to another station and find something you like.

On the other hand, those of us who enjoyed the wide variety of music played on WDET, do not have the option of switching the dial.  There is no alternative.  If you are looking for AA music in Detroit, its been pushed into the midnight hours, but how long will someone like Chuck Horn take the mistreatment?  He once was on a prime Friday night spot, then on to a lunchtime show.  Now?  Sunday night/Monday morning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, I cannot agree with you more on the issue of Judy and Martin&#8217;s programs.  What exactly was it that people expected to hear instead?  The motto for WDET used to be music variety.  Martin and Judy brought something to the airwaves that couldn&#8217;t be heard elsewhere.  Sure, Judy for a while wouldn&#8217;t stop playing Pat Matheny.  If anyone else is like me, I&#8217;m sure there were a few accidents from people falling asleep at the wheel.  But where else would you hear that music?</p>
<p>You may have not enjoyed everything that was played, but you were given a chance to form an opinion on it.  If you were never turned on to a new artist during your time listening to her program, you probably enjoy something closer to a top 40 format.  You can easily switch to another station and find something you like.</p>
<p>On the other hand, those of us who enjoyed the wide variety of music played on WDET, do not have the option of switching the dial.  There is no alternative.  If you are looking for AA music in Detroit, its been pushed into the midnight hours, but how long will someone like Chuck Horn take the mistreatment?  He once was on a prime Friday night spot, then on to a lunchtime show.  Now?  Sunday night/Monday morning.</p>
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		<title>By: mgal</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 13:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to the discussion, Tom, and thanks for bringing a new perspective. It is all the more evident this is a very emotional issue for many people, whether you liked the music or news format.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the discussion, Tom, and thanks for bringing a new perspective. It is all the more evident this is a very emotional issue for many people, whether you liked the music or news format.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 04:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just found this site today as a result of reading Susan Whitall&#039;s story in the Detroit News, 5/18/06 and I really appreciate all the insight here as well as inside info. Just want to say that I started listening to WDET in 1975 with Judy Adam&#039;s &quot;Morphegenisis&quot; program. This was during a time in Detroit radio right after what was called &quot;free form&quot; or &quot;underground&quot; radio had held court for awhile on stations like WABX. The idea back then was you got some knowledgable, hip, DJ&#039;s together, put them on the air and let them play whatever they wanted. The emphasis was on the music, not on the money! But by 1972 or so the corporate bean counters had got a hold of everything and started dictating to everyone the music they had to play and we started seeing things like National play lists.All the individual personality &amp; uniqueness quickly disappeared from any local programming.

 When Judy Adams started her show it seemed to be a return to that great &quot;free form&quot; style that I had missed for a couple of years. The thing that was great about &quot;free form&quot; radio formatting is that the DJ&#039;s had so much freedom to play whatever they liked &amp; became more like a tour guide on an exciting musical adventure than just somebody spinning records for a living &amp; yapping at you at warp speed. This of course only works if you have DJ&#039;s talented &amp; knowledgable enough to pull it off &amp; an audience open minded enough to ride the trip out and enjoy it.

 We are in different times now for sure! WDET was the last bastion of &quot;free form&quot; radio here, and perhaps in the whole country. It was a place for serious music fans to continue their adventurous exploration of all different forms of music. That has come to an end thanks to Michael Coleman and the bean counters. Everyone is right to say that WDET will never be what it once was.

 I am sad to see people making comments derogatory about the choice of music being played on Judy and Martin&#039;s shows. I love Tangerine Dream along with B.B.King,Willie Nelson,Eric Clapton,Ornette Coleman,Bob Dylan,Miles Davis,The Clash,&amp; the list goes on &amp; on. Yes, I even like Yanni. You people need to broaden your perspectives and expand your minds and stop acting like some close minded immature frat boys who need to pigeon hole everyone &amp; sit in judgement on them. It&#039;s about the music man!Not about your ego&#039;s. Any music of any style played well by musicians committed to their craft! WDET represented an open minded approach to life that didn&#039;t acknowledge,tolerate, or accept prejudice or close mindedness. It&#039;s especially ironic that the man responsible for bringing this all down is someone who really ought to understand how vital that is. 

As far as you news &amp; talk fans go, there are plenty of other places you can hear all the news or talk you would like. I definitely have always enjoyed Morning Edition &amp; All Things Considered but how dare you come into my living room on my radio station (Yes, I helped pay for it for the last 30 years!)and force me to listen to more of the same crap I can hear everywhere else. Go back where you came from and get out of my living room!This has not ever been a news &amp; talk radio station. This is a music station, so if you don&#039;t like the music, go somewhere else &amp; stop ruining my fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just found this site today as a result of reading Susan Whitall&#8217;s story in the Detroit News, 5/18/06 and I really appreciate all the insight here as well as inside info. Just want to say that I started listening to WDET in 1975 with Judy Adam&#8217;s &#8220;Morphegenisis&#8221; program. This was during a time in Detroit radio right after what was called &#8220;free form&#8221; or &#8220;underground&#8221; radio had held court for awhile on stations like WABX. The idea back then was you got some knowledgable, hip, DJ&#8217;s together, put them on the air and let them play whatever they wanted. The emphasis was on the music, not on the money! But by 1972 or so the corporate bean counters had got a hold of everything and started dictating to everyone the music they had to play and we started seeing things like National play lists.All the individual personality &amp; uniqueness quickly disappeared from any local programming.</p>
<p> When Judy Adams started her show it seemed to be a return to that great &#8220;free form&#8221; style that I had missed for a couple of years. The thing that was great about &#8220;free form&#8221; radio formatting is that the DJ&#8217;s had so much freedom to play whatever they liked &amp; became more like a tour guide on an exciting musical adventure than just somebody spinning records for a living &amp; yapping at you at warp speed. This of course only works if you have DJ&#8217;s talented &amp; knowledgable enough to pull it off &amp; an audience open minded enough to ride the trip out and enjoy it.</p>
<p> We are in different times now for sure! WDET was the last bastion of &#8220;free form&#8221; radio here, and perhaps in the whole country. It was a place for serious music fans to continue their adventurous exploration of all different forms of music. That has come to an end thanks to Michael Coleman and the bean counters. Everyone is right to say that WDET will never be what it once was.</p>
<p> I am sad to see people making comments derogatory about the choice of music being played on Judy and Martin&#8217;s shows. I love Tangerine Dream along with B.B.King,Willie Nelson,Eric Clapton,Ornette Coleman,Bob Dylan,Miles Davis,The Clash,&amp; the list goes on &amp; on. Yes, I even like Yanni. You people need to broaden your perspectives and expand your minds and stop acting like some close minded immature frat boys who need to pigeon hole everyone &amp; sit in judgement on them. It&#8217;s about the music man!Not about your ego&#8217;s. Any music of any style played well by musicians committed to their craft! WDET represented an open minded approach to life that didn&#8217;t acknowledge,tolerate, or accept prejudice or close mindedness. It&#8217;s especially ironic that the man responsible for bringing this all down is someone who really ought to understand how vital that is. </p>
<p>As far as you news &amp; talk fans go, there are plenty of other places you can hear all the news or talk you would like. I definitely have always enjoyed Morning Edition &amp; All Things Considered but how dare you come into my living room on my radio station (Yes, I helped pay for it for the last 30 years!)and force me to listen to more of the same crap I can hear everywhere else. Go back where you came from and get out of my living room!This has not ever been a news &amp; talk radio station. This is a music station, so if you don&#8217;t like the music, go somewhere else &amp; stop ruining my fun.</p>
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