Corporate Crap

i was talking with a friend earlier today and we were discussing how we both enjoy bagels from Panera Bread… i said that i wished we had one down here (Downtown/Midtown) and before i could finish my sentence he said, “nah! we’ve got enough corporate crap around here! i go to Avalon for that stuff!” and was quite serious…

first off, i love Avalon and i think my wife pays their rent with all the purchases she makes there… but do we really have enough “corporate crap” around here??? as our conversation continued, my friend went on to say that the corporate stuff around here doesn’t do that well anyways, that the Starbucks on Woodward and Mack isn’t doing that well… i totally disagreed with him and noted how everytime i go in there or drive by it’s got plenty of customers…

personally i don’t think we have enough corporate, nationally known stores in the D… it’s not that i want every store to be a chain, but some chains wouldn’t hurt (like Target or Kroger)… competition is healthy and can make local businesses better…

by the way, our conversation ended with us having lunch at Honest John’s where my friend paid with his Target credit card!!!

8 Comments so far

  1. Mollika* (unregistered) on November 1st, 2006 @ 2:38 pm

    How I would love to see more corporate around here. I’m with you on Target and of course my favourite Tim Hortons (which is a franchise, but corporate nonetheless). These huge corporations are the ones that can take risks to start up in Detroit. I love the fact that CVS and Rite Aid are competing for my Pharmacy dollars. Wallgreens, if you come in now, I’d rather stick to my original brave Pharmacies. With many corporations come jobs with benefits for workers. If the large corporations start now, they will develop a strong loyalty before the meanderers get here. Having brand recognition provided by corporations is essential to drawing crowds. Then independent businesses may profit from the corporate flocking.

  2. Tom (unregistered) on November 1st, 2006 @ 2:52 pm

    I can’t stand the Starbucks on Mack & Woodward. Not because I don’t like Starbucks (I love it), but because the damn place is always TOO busy. I had to stop going there in the morning because it was taking upwards of 15 minutes for me to get my coffee and it was making me late for work.

    I wish Starbucks would open another outlet, or at least extend the hours of the outlet on WSU’s campus to make them more normal.

    The only indy coffee place in Detroit that I really like is Avalon. I’ve been to Beans & Bytes and always get accosted by homeless people outside. I wasn’t that impressed with Amsterdam. I haven’t been to the one in the Park Shelton or the one in Techtown yet.

  3. baliad (unregistered) on November 1st, 2006 @ 3:12 pm

    B&B’s customer service is lax and the homeless folks are a problem… Avalon is too small, especially in the winter (word is they’re moving or expanding?)… i’m not sure if the Meetery Eatery (Park Shelton) is still open??? and while i haven’t been to Amsterdam, i heard it gets smokey, so i don’t really want try it out…

  4. Girl in the D (unregistered) on November 1st, 2006 @ 4:40 pm

    The Starbucks at Mack and Woodward is doing incredibly well. I have been there 8 times in the past month for meetings (everyone seems to want to meet up there) and they expanded their hours at the beginning of October (awesome since the one in the Penobscot closes early) because they are doing so well.

  5. max (unregistered) on November 1st, 2006 @ 4:43 pm

    to me “corporate” = brand name recognition which, in turn, will always mean busier with out of towners. the locals always know of that little mom & pop that has the best “whatever” in their area but i’m no different, when i’m out of town i will always default to the recognized name. bottom line is that the more Detroit draws from the subburbs the more it needs recognizable places to shop.

  6. Mollika* (unregistered) on November 7th, 2006 @ 8:26 am

    Max, very concisely put. So what corporations should we court?

  7. sam smith (unregistered) on November 20th, 2006 @ 4:04 pm

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  8. Erica (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 2:26 pm

    Ooh. What Max said. It’s kind of like (in this country anyway), that a city isn’t up to snuff until it’s got all those chains that the other cities have. Even though cities like New York and San Francisco in particular are known for their incredible variety of restaurants.

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