don’t hate me for this…

i have a feeling this post may be like yelling “HONEY!” in a crowded bee hive but i i’d like to see some opinions and maybe have some of you open my eyes to the light right in front of me, so to speak. that being said, let’s discuss the UAW/GM strike. having never been faced with that sort of huge corporation or, honestly, never having really worked for a “big business” before the way i see it may be 180 degrees off base but i think that the union workers should realize that if they expect the business to last, thus creating job security, they should understand that they,GM, need to make some big changes. history is proving that offering paid health care for the whole life of the worker can not continue. and to make it even worse the average human is now living longer than ever before. from what i have heard the typical auto worker makes a pretty damn good wage, has good benefits and is rewarded for their services with some pretty good vacation time and is quite franklly doing much better than me on each of those levels (but i’m happy to have a job that keeps me bringing home the bacon and frying it up in the pan) to me…again..TO ME it seems like asking to be taken care of after you retire…especially in these economic times, is greedy. don’t they see that the company is struggling just to stay alive and that the struggle is based mostly on the very thing they are demanding? i’ll drop this the way it started by saying that this is my opinion and i welcome oposing views and admit, as i frequently do, that i may be completely wrong about this whole thing.

4 Comments so far

  1. ANN (unregistered) on September 25th, 2007 @ 3:55 pm

    One of the fundamental rules to capitalism states that the only constant in business is change. Unfortunately unions aren’t guided by the rules of capitalism and therefore have a tendency remain static. The only course the big 3 have here is to bring the UAW along, kicking and screaming if they have to, into the 21st century.


  2. max (unregistered) on September 25th, 2007 @ 4:14 pm

    very honestly i expected to be verbally tarred, feathered and ridden out of town on a virtual rail. i’m stoked that i found brotherhood (no unioun pun intended)


  3. Abster (unregistered) on September 25th, 2007 @ 9:06 pm

    What I think, and this is even growing up in a union household – so I sympathize with the tar and feather bit, is that the UAW and GM both need to realize that in such a global economy, things much change.

    For GM, they need to realize that with economy, especially Michigan’s, in such a dismal state that your workers will be demanding job security. They want to make sure that US cars will be build in the US.

    The UAW needs to realize that their outrageous demands are what created the need for outsourcing in the first place. Something that, at the most basic level, amounts to assembly line work is being compensated at an astounding rate. People with limited education and skill are being paid a huge amount and then are demanding more. As the interviwee on WDIV stated “They want $40 and hour for $15 dollar work”. Yes, its manual, labor intensive and can be dangerous at times, but the amount of money that is being paid in compensation and benefits is just too much. Perhaps if these workers were willing to take less pay during their careers then there would be enough left over for the retirees? I’m not an expert, and don’t pretend to be, so I may be way off base.

    That said, I do not think that it’s fair for CURRENT retirees in the plan to lose benfits. For many, that’s all they have, and if they were guaranteed benefits when they left, then it should by all means still be available to them. In the future, however, retiree benefits may be better handled some other way.

    What I do realize is that this strike CANNOT last long. One side may have to cave to the other’s demands sometime soon in order to keep at least a small piece of the economy going. It will be interesting to see who must make the most concessions.


  4. mona (unregistered) on September 26th, 2007 @ 8:28 pm

    The union DOES understand they need to change with the time. Of course they are a day late and a dollar or two short, but the fact that the retiree health care was even on the table proves the union is aware of the dire condition of the U.S. automotive industry. And the entire thing is really the companies’ fault anyway for not demanding changes years ago. The Detroit automotive industry has been on a decline before I took in my first breath. I have worked in the automotive industry for over a dozen years as a management person and realize that the union membership only does what management lets them get away with. The companies have been huge enablers. IMHO, people are grossly self interested and can only see a couple feet past their own situation. The stuff that folks get away with in our plants are downright embarrassing. It is easy to say the membership is well overpaid, but when you are part of the membership there is no way you want to take a life altering paycut. The industry has a long way to go. It will be interesting to see what other changes the contract will have. I’m not all that impressed with the retiree health care managed by the union, but I suppose it’s a start.



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